<p>Optimus, I agree.  Our Brigs are very similar.  But many people don't like purely defensive familiars, I know I didn't before Hoska. For them, on their warloard is the only place the have a defensive ability. </p><p>@ MadFugu, most raid bosses have a sweeper or multi-hit attack. S&D procs multiple times durring these attacks, doing much more damage than CF. I admit CF isn't amazing on BlueB in PvP. that is reserved for Payback. guess what works like Payback? CF isn't amazing, but it is good.  you say it isn't 'that' useful, but that means it is still useful. </p>

<p>My current set of skills is LW/BoMS2/S&D. Classics in other words. :) </p><p>But now, with 3 Hoskas (1 POPE/2OPE) in my team, I figured, that S&D is killing my good Hitter (WL) very quickly instead of Hoska's doing there's job. But I don't know witch skill is better then S&D. </p><p>1) CF is rediculous on BlueBeard due to his low ATK and backrow pos; </p><p>2) Payback - too expensive; </p><p>3) Syphon - very ineffective. </p><p>Grin and Bear It - may be best alternative, because it will add more survive options to my WL. But I don't want to waste my Tuniq Guardian Colossus II because I don't really know how effective it will be. Our WL has many DEF and WIS, so I don't know how many times a hit from opponent will kill BB with more then 50% HP... In my opinion not many.. </p><p>What you think about my fears of effectivness of G&BI? </p>

<p>for me, i'll add Syphon to your WL and put Hoska next to him. do you have any experience with Syphon? i've used it once, and Syphon save my ass many times. </p>

<p>I have changed my opinion on Syphon.  Now I feel that Syphon is garbage unless used next to Hoska or another protector fam.  </p><p>Syphon is amazeballs next to Hoska, and you could sandwitch ur BluB so you are healing 2 of em.  that is good shit. </p><p>
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• Syphon is still garbage in raid, or in tower when not used correctly.

<p>the plan is: your Hoska protect your entire brig including your WL. but when he let your WL get hit, syphon will make hoska alive longer to keep protecting the others. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Mogaekdb wrote: </p><p>Syphon is amazeballs next to Hoska, and you could sandwitch ur BluB so you are healing 2 of em.  that is good shit. </p><p>
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• Syphon is still garbage in raid, or in tower when not used correctly.

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<p>As I know, Syphon heals 1 of adjustment familiars, isn't it? </p><p>
P.S. How I can "correctly" use Syphon in raid or tower? </p>

<p>how about this: </p><p>
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<p>Last 2 posts of "A Wikia contributor" is mine. </p><p>My PvP brigade now is (5 rear): </p><p>1 line: WL (BoMS2/LW/S&D) / Paladin of Capicorn II / Hoska EP4 / Ma-gu EP4 / Hoska EP4 </p><p>2 line: Kelaino II / Alp EP4I / Hoska EP4 / Soura II / Sugaar, EP4 </p><p>If I replace S&D with Syphon, the only posibility is to replace Capi with WL, so only 1 Hoska take benefit of Syphon on WL. </p>

<p>the real thing is, you can start your own thread for asking advice to other people. </p><p>but i'll try here: </p><p>
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P.S. How I can "correctly" use Syphon in raid or tower? </p> </i></div>
<p>Syphon is best used in raid buy bring replaced with S&D.  syphon is <i>not</i> to be used in raid
</p><p>in the Vault portion of tower, if you must use your WL in your formation, put it in position 4 or 5, adjacent to a defensive fam, i.e. Hoska (I like Hoska, in 3rd spot so he takes the auto atks of the boss) with the intent that Hoska will take most of the hits, and the few that your WL takes will heal Hoska. </p>